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On 5/3/2020 at 11:28 AM, EWU Emma said:

Strangely enough, as soon as I posted it here in the thread suspecting it was Christian, whoever was behind it immediately deleted it. Too obvious... 🤣

 

Christian did the same thing to me on my You-Tube Channel channel and Area 52 Rider's.   It got really old.  His posts were there, we call him out on it and he'd remove it like a middle school aged kid.  

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The entire tone of that video sounded like he was going to commit suicide.  I know that video is out there on YouTube somewhere but I don’t know where. Does any one know?

It's right here:

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Such as the logs mysteriously put under Christian’s Jeep.  We all know he did it to film it and try to blame it on A51R.  A51R was in Canada at the time!

Actually it was "stumps" he claimed I put under his vehicle. Stumps. Not only was I in Canada at the time, but somehow I knew he was at the Tikaboo Peak trailhead, and I somehow placed stumps under his vehicle. Speaking of film/video - whatever happened to that? 

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2 hours ago, Desert Jeff said:

It’s been a month since this thread about Adventures with Christian started on EWU.  I reckon I’ll throw in my words too. It’s long, but I have a lot to say to cover the past 3 years with Christian aka, Adventures with Christian.

Thanks for jumping in on this thread, and posting your experiences Jeff.
FYI, I didn't ask Jeff to post this, in fact I told him I wouldn't blame him if he stayed away from this whole thing.
Yet again I learn things from others - I wasn't aware of the whole Wonder Hussy thing. I have no doubt Christian invented all that too.

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45 minutes ago, The Area 51 Rider said:

Thanks for jumping in on this thread, and posting your experiences Jeff.
FYI, I didn't ask Jeff to post this, in fact I told him I wouldn't blame him if he stayed away from this whole thing.
Yet again I learn things from others - I wasn't aware of the whole Wonder Hussy thing. I have no doubt Christian invented all that too.

She may be a pornstar but ain't no way in hell AWC is getting in those pants.  

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1 hour ago, Coyote Alpha 51 said:

She may be a pornstar but ain't no way in hell AWC is getting in those pants.  

That whole idea of getting together on the top of Mandalay Bay with Christian and Wonder Hussy just makes my skin crawl.  It sounded like a recipe for disaster. I have nothing against WH, pornstar or not, she was polite to me, treated me like a human. This isn't about her, But I think she should keep her eyes peeled and her iron sights on the lookout for Christian. I hope she has a CCW It is caution in the places she explores. I also find it interesting that Christian had some sort of fascination with the Mandalay Bay. Wasn't that the same hotel that had the shooting at a country western music festival? 

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2 hours ago, The Area 51 Rider said:

Thanks for jumping in on this thread, and posting your experiences Jeff.
FYI, I didn't ask Jeff to post this, in fact I told him I wouldn't blame him if he stayed away from this whole thing.
Yet again I learn things from others - I wasn't aware of the whole Wonder Hussy thing. I have no doubt Christian invented all that too. 

I toss it around for a month wondering if I should post my experience or not.  What the hell and I went for it. Things keep surfacing of stuff he said or stuff he did that I should have included.

I remember a time when he accused me of calling his son's teachers at school. How the hell would I even know where his son went to school let alone what teachers and classes he had to get a hold of his teachers? And if I did call them, what would I even say? All lies. During that same time he accused The Area 51 Rider for calling his son's  baseball coach. Like how is A51R going to know who his coach is! 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Desert Jeff said:

That whole idea of getting together on the top of Mandalay Bay with Christian and Wonder Hussy just makes my skin crawl.  It sounded like a recipe for disaster. I have nothing against WH, pornstar or not, she was polite to me, treated me like a human. This isn't about her, But I think she should keep her eyes peeled and her iron sights on the lookout for Christian. I hope she has a CCW It is caution in the places she explores. I also find it interesting that Christian had some sort of fascination with the Mandalay Bay. Wasn't that the same hotel that had the shooting at a country western music festival? 

It was the same hotel. 

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5 hours ago, Desert Jeff said:

It’s been a month since this thread about Adventures with Christian started on EWU.  I reckon I’ll throw in my words too. It’s long, but I have a lot to say to cover the past 3 years with Christian aka, Adventures with Christian.

I became friends with Christian in the Spring of 2017.  I had begun my research on Area 51.  I planned on visiting, it was one of my pipe dreams since the early 90’s. I did what many do, I turned to the internet for research. I found Christian on YouTube. I chatted with him on YouTube and in Messenger on FB.  We even emailed and texted. He had some good info to offer. I valued his knowledge he gave me. We seemed to have a good friendship, like we were pin pals.  As time went on, some of the things he told me seemed too far-fetched; both personal details about him and his trumpeting about Area 51. I just politely agreed and continued my communication and our friendship built, somewhat.

I later discovered Wonder Hussy YouTube channel and she explored places in Nevada as well.  I chatted with her a little bit and I guess she really trusted me, she gave me some really sound advice on exploring some areas and some directions how to get there, and she never relinquishes that info.   Coming from 3 states away, at one time 4 states, I’d take any tips or knowledge I could get.  I asked Christian if he knew Wonder Hussy and if she was creditable. He said he knows her well and his wife (not noted as ex-wife at this time) works with her in Vegas dancing. Okay so Christian was married to a dancer?  Sure, okay…. It could happen I guess. He asked me when I come down to visit to look him up and he will call Wonder Hussy and he knows the maintenance guy at the Mandalay Bay that overlooks the Janet Jets and his maintenance guy friend can lets us up on the roof of the Mandalay Bay where we can do a cooperative video and talk about the Jets, Area 51, and whatever else Wonder Hussy wants to do. That sounded like a good recipe for getting into trouble and besides, I have no business running around with someone like Wonder Hussy.  My spouse wouldn’t appreciate it, & and it would be awkward anyways…. That was my first instinct.  My second, instinct was that his idea seemed to be again too far-fetched.  He also said that Wonder Hussy is amazing and fun to be with when alone. WHAT?? Come on…. Is he pulling my leg? What is he getting at here? Besides she seemed to be the type who wouldn’t hang around with someone like Christian and probably carries weapon to drop any sick male with lead to the head anyways. I had started to get some strange feelings about Christian about this time. He knows the maintenance guy at Mandalay Bay who can let us on the roof? I guess he could, it could happen, but I wanted no part in this, at all.   I just let that entire idea go away on its own hoping he would forget about it and never ask me again.  He never did.

              We had emailed back and forth a few more times. It was then my strange feelings about him heightened. I was on alert.  Something has gone wrong with our friendship and I don’t know what.  My wife even asked me, “How is your friend in Vegas doing, the welder? The last time she asked I had to answer, “I hadn’t heard from him in a  few weeks, I don’t know how he is.  Maybe he is busy welding, he said he owns a welding business and has a lot of trucks he operates out of”.   This was at the time I had discovered The Area51 Rider (I’ll call him A51R for short).  I had been chatting with him on his page about Area 51.  Little did I know Christian had been watching this and didn’t like it and he had ghosted me.  Unaware of Christians new hatred toward me, I had emailed him like friends do asking him how he has been, what going on, and I hadn’t heard from him in a while, and if he is okay.  Christian emailed back with in the day scolding me for communicating with A51R, telling me he was an evil man, to not ever talk with him again, and calling A51R every hateful word that would make a sailor blush.  He even called me names for talking with A51R.  Christian had blown up, twisted off on me for chatting with A51R. I was in such disbelief of how Christian thrashed out at A51R and at me.  I emailed Christian back asking him to back down, I have done nothing wrong, but talk with Area 51 people on YouTube, just as I had talked with him.  I told him I was also leaving for Area 51 in a couple weeks and if he still wanted to meet up, we could.  I was trying to salvage the friendship that suddenly took a nose dive.  Christian took my “meet up request” as a threat as if I wanted to meet up and fight him. He said he felt sorry for me, and called me a bunch more names and he warned me that all of the Nevada mining employees will be watching for me and I am not welcome in Nevada anymore.  He said he was going to “kick my ass”, if he sees me. Christian said he’s a “black belt in karate”.  He has seriously twisted off, flying off the handle and he hates my guts now. If he wants to act like he is in middle school that’s fine.  I, being the more mature one, blocked him on Facebook, blocked him on YouTube, I blocked him on GMAIL, which deleted all our communications we had. Furthermore, I submitted a request to Verizon to block his number so he could not call or text me anymore.  Verizon complied. Apparently I was now just as evil as The Area 51 Rider. Why?? Because we openly chatted on A51R’s channel?  There is some sort of unhealthy reasoning behind why Christian hates A51R so bad, and me too. 

              To be honest, I thought maybe Christian was right, maybe there is something wrong with A51R.  I was super cautious for a while; I mean come on, who wouldn’t be? I threw my guard up, yet A51R treated me with kindness, even called me Sir.  He was professional, and he seemed ok, all the time.   I finally asked A51R about Christian and if there was something wrong with him.  A51R told me Christian is a pathological liar, and told me to look up the meaning and symptoms of that and Christian fits every one of them. I never have known a pathological liar, & I’m not a psychologist, so I did look up the true definition.  Oh my!!!! He’s right!!!  I couldn’t believe how accurate this was.  Everything made since. Here is a few detail of a pathological liar.

-Along with being made the hero or victim in their stories, pathological liars tend to tell lies that seem to be geared at gaining admiration, sympathy, or acceptance by others.

- They seem to believe the lies they tell

-Talk about experiences and accomplishments in which they appear heroic

-The play the victim in many of their stories, often looking for sympathy

- Has different versions of the same story, which stems from forgetting previous details

- Creates a false stories and history, such as saying they’ve achieved or experienced something they haven’t. Often, stories are too good to be true.

- Claiming to have a life-threatening illness that they don’t have

- Telling lies to impress others

- Enraging Anger

Ref: https://www.healthline.com/health/pathological-liar#what-is-it

This was in 2017 mind you, now it is mid-2020, a little more than 3 years later and I am still friends with The Area51 Rider. My guard is no longer up with The Area 51 Rider. I have even sent him cards in the mail.  A51R and I are good friends.  I am thankful to know him and we chat often.

              I went to Area 51 in 2017, twice. I explored, video, & pictured. The entire time, Christian knew I was going to be there, I watched for him. I always looked over my shoulder for him because I wasn’t sure how crazy he is. I never saw him or his white TJ Jeep that can’t drive over rocks “left by the cammo dudes”, that he referred to in one of his passed videos.  I never saw any miners who wanted to beat me up and throw me out of Nevada. In fact, I went there THREE TIMES, over the course of two years.  It is a very fascinating area.  The Area51 Rider gave me some great info.  He has been going there for 16 years?  2020 if he makes it, would be 17 years or close to that.  A51R has made Area 51 a career and with the exception of Glenn Cambell, A51R knowledge cannot be matched. He has sent me to places with GPS Coordinates that no else has ever covered.  Places that I will not openly speak about nor post video online about.  

I’ve had a YouTube channel since YouTube began.  It’s a channel about everything. Desert, Drones, FPV, vehicle fixes, more recently, Area 51.  I do not have any more Area 51 content.  I ran out, I knew that would happen.    I don’t try to push it on my channel, I don’t make money on my channel. I have a lot of videos that are made for my family to refer to and to “remember when”. That is its only purpose. When I did post videos, Christian, and maybe his son Sean, by the wording of some the comments, were down thumbing my videos.  Ok that’s fine.  I don’t care.  But they were also commenting nasty nasty dirty remarks.  I had to research how to put a word filter on my channel. That stopped their comments at least. I was constantly reported to YouTube for fake violations. Nothing ever resulted of those.  I posted a handful of Area 51 videos and Christian took it as a personal attack on him, he tried to get my channel shut down multiple times with no success.  My Area 51 Videos here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD48FW6KgQLlC0iEpZ5JHIPiIO0jw_CAl

Suddenly I was blamed for a Cheaterland write-up about Christian. It was a post about how he beat his wife, son, and daughter and hangs out with other single baseball mom’s.  No I didn’t do that; I didn’t even know such websites existed.  I ignored Christian’s accusations of writing that stuff about his family.  I guess he couldn’t get a rise out of me so then he turned his blame to  The Area 51 Rider.  He didn’t do it either.  There was a lot of personal info in the Cheaterland write-up.  There was stuff written in there that can’t be made up except by an ex-wife or ex-in laws.  This was also at the time when Christian made a video “Quitting Area 51” or something like that.  In that video he expressed he just went through a real hard divorce and I guess his ex-wife cleaned him out.   The entire tone of that video sounded like he was going to commit suicide.  I know that video is out there on YouTube somewhere but I don’t know where. Does any one know?

Christian got involved with someone called KS222, another YouTube artist making videos doxing A51R and a few against me as I continued to use YouTube to chat with A51R.  Most of those were removed I think because they violated YouTube rules.    KS222 has disappeared…  I often wondered if she/he was a new girlfriend/boyfriend who helped Christian cut up other people’s videos for purposes of attempting to defame them. After a few months KS222 disappeared, maybe they broke up? Shortly after, Christian seemed to continue to try to defame A51R on smut websites that only middle scholars use.

There has been lots of happenings and events in between the lines above. Such as the logs mysteriously put under Christian’s Jeep.  We all know he did it to film it and try to blame it on A51R.  A51R was in Canada at the time!   Hey Christian, you have a freakin TJ!! You couldn’t drive over those tiny logs?  WTH?  Your TJ must be a Mall-Crawler not a Rock Crawler, and with those over-sized tires, I hope you break your Dana 35 rear axle, perhaps why you can’t drive over logs. 

On the subject of the Jeep, Christian made up a story that A51R cut his jeep brake lines.  That’s another fabricated story that many others have debunked!  His jeep was not in an accident. Pathological liar; “Claiming to have a life-threatening illness that they don’t have” and “Played the victim in many of their stories, often looking for sympathy”.

His ex-wife knows Wonder Hussy; “Telling lies to impress others”.  I am not impressed.  But I understand why his wife left him. Good for HER! 

Christian has some anger management issues and is why he got so upset at me for communicating with A51R and is also the reason why he lashes out at him and so many others including myself.

Several months have passed since I’ve noticed anything new with Christian trying to defame me.  Then again, I haven’t been watching either. I do have to wonder how much longer this is going to go on.  I wonder when Christian is going to flip is top and go postal.   He has no one to blame, but himself for any of this. 

Welcome Jeff,

I am glad you made it over to post. 

It's interesting as you and I have both had the same experience with Christian, only he just ghosted me, never cussed me out. I know one other guy who also got cussed out, and Adventures With Christian also cussed him out over the phone, which really surprised the guy. He said it was like he was talking to a totally different person, and he was insisting that he was the only Area 51 expert. 

He was a guy who went to the Storm Area 51 event and made a documentary, and I am hoping he will make it over here to share his experience as well. I have a few messages from him, but I don't want to share them without his permission, but I am sure Foster knows who I am talking about. I haven't talked with him in some time, but he is a good guy who also got sucked into Christian's lies. Maybe @The Area 51 Rider is still in contact with him and can see if he will come over. We no longer have Facebook. 

I remember I was supposed to meet up with Christian many times back in 2017 before I knew he was insane. Every time we were supposed to meet up, he would ghost and disappear. He made all kinds of weird promises to me as well, free hotels, a job with his local union, and even said he would put a new engine in my Armada. I never took him up on the offer, but from everything I have heard, they were all lies anyway. That's probably why he refused to meet up. 

He did this exact same thing to a guy who was supposed to meet up with him at the Storm Area 51 event, made him all kinds of promises, free shows, free hotels, etc, etc, but then when it was time, he ghosted him as well. 

Before I knew Christian was a nut case, I remember suggesting that he should meet up with Foster at the back gate and settle it like a men, but he seemed to be rather scared of that idea. For such a tough guy, black belt and all, he seems like a big pussy. I honestly believe Foster would easily kick his ass too (if Foster had to defend himself of course). 

Adventures With Christian is one strange guy, to say the least. He seems to go looking for trouble and honestly believes he is the foremost Area 51 expert. He seems delusional. 

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48 minutes ago, Desert Jeff said:

I toss it around for a month wondering if I should post my experience or not.  What the hell and I went for it. Things keep surfacing of stuff he said or stuff he did that I should have included.

I remember a time when he accused me of calling his son's teachers at school. How the hell would I even know where his son went to school let alone what teachers and classes he had to get a hold of his teachers? And if I did call them, what would I even say? All lies. During that same time he accused The Area 51 Rider for calling his son's  baseball coach. Like how is A51R going to know who his coach is! 

 

 

I am glad that you did Jeff, your first post on this thread is excellent. You have a great channel to. I'm not subscribed but I will do it right now.

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11 hours ago, Desert Jeff said:

It’s been a month since this thread about Adventures with Christian started on EWU.  I reckon I’ll throw in my words too. It’s long, but I have a lot to say to cover the past 3 years with Christian aka, Adventures with Christian.

I became friends with Christian in the Spring of 2017.  I had begun my research on Area 51.  I planned on visiting, it was one of my pipe dreams since the early 90’s. I did what many do, I turned to the internet for research. I found Christian on YouTube. I chatted with him on YouTube and in Messenger on FB.  We even emailed and texted. He had some good info to offer. I valued his knowledge he gave me. We seemed to have a good friendship, like we were pin pals.  As time went on, some of the things he told me seemed too far-fetched; both personal details about him and his trumpeting about Area 51. I just politely agreed and continued my communication and our friendship built, somewhat.

I later discovered Wonder Hussy YouTube channel and she explored places in Nevada as well.  I chatted with her a little bit and I guess she really trusted me, she gave me some really sound advice on exploring some areas and some directions how to get there, and she never relinquishes that info.   Coming from 3 states away, at one time 4 states, I’d take any tips or knowledge I could get.  I asked Christian if he knew Wonder Hussy and if she was creditable. He said he knows her well and his wife (not noted as ex-wife at this time) works with her in Vegas dancing. Okay so Christian was married to a dancer?  Sure, okay…. It could happen I guess. He asked me when I come down to visit to look him up and he will call Wonder Hussy and he knows the maintenance guy at the Mandalay Bay that overlooks the Janet Jets and his maintenance guy friend can lets us up on the roof of the Mandalay Bay where we can do a cooperative video and talk about the Jets, Area 51, and whatever else Wonder Hussy wants to do. That sounded like a good recipe for getting into trouble and besides, I have no business running around with someone like Wonder Hussy.  My spouse wouldn’t appreciate it, & and it would be awkward anyways…. That was my first instinct.  My second, instinct was that his idea seemed to be again too far-fetched.  He also said that Wonder Hussy is amazing and fun to be with when alone. WHAT?? Come on…. Is he pulling my leg? What is he getting at here? Besides she seemed to be the type who wouldn’t hang around with someone like Christian and probably carries weapon to drop any sick male with lead to the head anyways. I had started to get some strange feelings about Christian about this time. He knows the maintenance guy at Mandalay Bay who can let us on the roof? I guess he could, it could happen, but I wanted no part in this, at all.   I just let that entire idea go away on its own hoping he would forget about it and never ask me again.  He never did.

              We had emailed back and forth a few more times. It was then my strange feelings about him heightened. I was on alert.  Something has gone wrong with our friendship and I don’t know what.  My wife even asked me, “How is your friend in Vegas doing, the welder? The last time she asked I had to answer, “I hadn’t heard from him in a  few weeks, I don’t know how he is.  Maybe he is busy welding, he said he owns a welding business and has a lot of trucks he operates out of”.   This was at the time I had discovered The Area51 Rider (I’ll call him A51R for short).  I had been chatting with him on his page about Area 51.  Little did I know Christian had been watching this and didn’t like it and he had ghosted me.  Unaware of Christians new hatred toward me, I had emailed him like friends do asking him how he has been, what going on, and I hadn’t heard from him in a while, and if he is okay.  Christian emailed back with in the day scolding me for communicating with A51R, telling me he was an evil man, to not ever talk with him again, and calling A51R every hateful word that would make a sailor blush.  He even called me names for talking with A51R.  Christian had blown up, twisted off on me for chatting with A51R. I was in such disbelief of how Christian thrashed out at A51R and at me.  I emailed Christian back asking him to back down, I have done nothing wrong, but talk with Area 51 people on YouTube, just as I had talked with him.  I told him I was also leaving for Area 51 in a couple weeks and if he still wanted to meet up, we could.  I was trying to salvage the friendship that suddenly took a nose dive.  Christian took my “meet up request” as a threat as if I wanted to meet up and fight him. He said he felt sorry for me, and called me a bunch more names and he warned me that all of the Nevada mining employees will be watching for me and I am not welcome in Nevada anymore.  He said he was going to “kick my ass”, if he sees me. Christian said he’s a “black belt in karate”.  He has seriously twisted off, flying off the handle and he hates my guts now. If he wants to act like he is in middle school that’s fine.  I, being the more mature one, blocked him on Facebook, blocked him on YouTube, I blocked him on GMAIL, which deleted all our communications we had. Furthermore, I submitted a request to Verizon to block his number so he could not call or text me anymore.  Verizon complied. Apparently I was now just as evil as The Area 51 Rider. Why?? Because we openly chatted on A51R’s channel?  There is some sort of unhealthy reasoning behind why Christian hates A51R so bad, and me too. 

              To be honest, I thought maybe Christian was right, maybe there is something wrong with A51R.  I was super cautious for a while; I mean come on, who wouldn’t be? I threw my guard up, yet A51R treated me with kindness, even called me Sir.  He was professional, and he seemed ok, all the time.   I finally asked A51R about Christian and if there was something wrong with him.  A51R told me Christian is a pathological liar, and told me to look up the meaning and symptoms of that and Christian fits every one of them. I never have known a pathological liar, & I’m not a psychologist, so I did look up the true definition.  Oh my!!!! He’s right!!!  I couldn’t believe how accurate this was.  Everything made since. Here is a few detail of a pathological liar.

-Along with being made the hero or victim in their stories, pathological liars tend to tell lies that seem to be geared at gaining admiration, sympathy, or acceptance by others.

- They seem to believe the lies they tell

-Talk about experiences and accomplishments in which they appear heroic

-The play the victim in many of their stories, often looking for sympathy

- Has different versions of the same story, which stems from forgetting previous details

- Creates a false stories and history, such as saying they’ve achieved or experienced something they haven’t. Often, stories are too good to be true.

- Claiming to have a life-threatening illness that they don’t have

- Telling lies to impress others

- Enraging Anger

Ref: https://www.healthline.com/health/pathological-liar#what-is-it

This was in 2017 mind you, now it is mid-2020, a little more than 3 years later and I am still friends with The Area51 Rider. My guard is no longer up with The Area 51 Rider. I have even sent him cards in the mail.  A51R and I are good friends.  I am thankful to know him and we chat often.

              I went to Area 51 in 2017, twice. I explored, video, & pictured. The entire time, Christian knew I was going to be there, I watched for him. I always looked over my shoulder for him because I wasn’t sure how crazy he is. I never saw him or his white TJ Jeep that can’t drive over rocks “left by the cammo dudes”, that he referred to in one of his passed videos.  I never saw any miners who wanted to beat me up and throw me out of Nevada. In fact, I went there THREE TIMES, over the course of two years.  It is a very fascinating area.  The Area51 Rider gave me some great info.  He has been going there for 16 years?  2020 if he makes it, would be 17 years or close to that.  A51R has made Area 51 a career and with the exception of Glenn Cambell, A51R knowledge cannot be matched. He has sent me to places with GPS Coordinates that no else has ever covered.  Places that I will not openly speak about nor post video online about.  

I’ve had a YouTube channel since YouTube began.  It’s a channel about everything. Desert, Drones, FPV, vehicle fixes, more recently, Area 51.  I do not have any more Area 51 content.  I ran out, I knew that would happen.    I don’t try to push it on my channel, I don’t make money on my channel. I have a lot of videos that are made for my family to refer to and to “remember when”. That is its only purpose. When I did post videos, Christian, and maybe his son Sean, by the wording of some the comments, were down thumbing my videos.  Ok that’s fine.  I don’t care.  But they were also commenting nasty nasty dirty remarks.  I had to research how to put a word filter on my channel. That stopped their comments at least. I was constantly reported to YouTube for fake violations. Nothing ever resulted of those.  I posted a handful of Area 51 videos and Christian took it as a personal attack on him, he tried to get my channel shut down multiple times with no success.  My Area 51 Videos here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD48FW6KgQLlC0iEpZ5JHIPiIO0jw_CAl

Suddenly I was blamed for a Cheaterland write-up about Christian. It was a post about how he beat his wife, son, and daughter and hangs out with other single baseball mom’s.  No I didn’t do that; I didn’t even know such websites existed.  I ignored Christian’s accusations of writing that stuff about his family.  I guess he couldn’t get a rise out of me so then he turned his blame to  The Area 51 Rider.  He didn’t do it either.  There was a lot of personal info in the Cheaterland write-up.  There was stuff written in there that can’t be made up except by an ex-wife or ex-in laws.  This was also at the time when Christian made a video “Quitting Area 51” or something like that.  In that video he expressed he just went through a real hard divorce and I guess his ex-wife cleaned him out.   The entire tone of that video sounded like he was going to commit suicide.  I know that video is out there on YouTube somewhere but I don’t know where. Does any one know?

Christian got involved with someone called KS222, another YouTube artist making videos doxing A51R and a few against me as I continued to use YouTube to chat with A51R.  Most of those were removed I think because they violated YouTube rules.    KS222 has disappeared…  I often wondered if she/he was a new girlfriend/boyfriend who helped Christian cut up other people’s videos for purposes of attempting to defame them. After a few months KS222 disappeared, maybe they broke up? Shortly after, Christian seemed to continue to try to defame A51R on smut websites that only middle scholars use.

There has been lots of happenings and events in between the lines above. Such as the logs mysteriously put under Christian’s Jeep.  We all know he did it to film it and try to blame it on A51R.  A51R was in Canada at the time!   Hey Christian, you have a freakin TJ!! You couldn’t drive over those tiny logs?  WTH?  Your TJ must be a Mall-Crawler not a Rock Crawler, and with those over-sized tires, I hope you break your Dana 35 rear axle, perhaps why you can’t drive over logs. 

On the subject of the Jeep, Christian made up a story that A51R cut his jeep brake lines.  That’s another fabricated story that many others have debunked!  His jeep was not in an accident. Pathological liar; “Claiming to have a life-threatening illness that they don’t have” and “Played the victim in many of their stories, often looking for sympathy”.

His ex-wife knows Wonder Hussy; “Telling lies to impress others”.  I am not impressed.  But I understand why his wife left him. Good for HER! 

Christian has some anger management issues and is why he got so upset at me for communicating with A51R and is also the reason why he lashes out at him and so many others including myself.

Several months have passed since I’ve noticed anything new with Christian trying to defame me.  Then again, I haven’t been watching either. I do have to wonder how much longer this is going to go on.  I wonder when Christian is going to flip is top and go postal.   He has no one to blame, but himself for any of this. 

This proof it what kind of person Christian truly is. It sucks and awesome people like you, Area51 Rider and Ewu has to go through all this stuff which is just ABSURD!

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A tip for people posting here, and quoting someones long post. If you shorten the quote of that person down to 1 or 2 lines, it won't make this thread so long.

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12 hours ago, EWU Bob said:

I know one other guy who also got cussed out, and Adventures With Christian also cussed him out over the phone, which really surprised the guy. He said it was like he was talking to a totally different person, and he was insisting that he was the only Area 51 expert. 

He was a guy who went to the Storm Area 51 event and made a documentary, and I am hoping he will make it over here to share his experience as well. I have a few messages from him, but I don't want to share them without his permission, but I am sure Foster knows who I am talking about. I haven't talked with him in some time, but he is a good guy who also got sucked into Christian's lies. Maybe @The Area 51 Rider is still in contact with him and can see if he will come over. We no longer have Facebook. 

He did this exact same thing to a guy who was supposed to meet up with him at the Storm Area 51 event, made him all kinds of promises, free shows, free hotels, etc, etc, but then when it was time, he ghosted him as well.

I haven't heard from that guy for ages, he really wanted to interview me for a documentary he was working on. He actually showed up out of the blue at my desert campsite, it really freaked me out considering what was happening at the time, until he told me who he was. He REALLY should have videoed our conversation then, it WAS basically an interview.

He really wanted to interview Christian as well, which I could care less about, but I guess when he told Christian he wanted to interview me for his documentary too, Christian absolutely LOST it on him. The guy told me the same story I have heard many times, that Christian offered him free hotel rooms, free show tickets, etc. But when the time came, Christian was nowhere to be found. The exact same story I heard from that radio guy, Ted Randall. I have seen him offer this stuff to other people as well, but I have never heard of anyone who he actually came through for with his offers.

This guy was at "Storm Area 51", he wanted to interview me during that event. But as circumstances turned out I had to turn around and return home due to an emergency.

I haven't heard much of anything from him since. I am not going to ask him to comment here, I will give him a link to this thread however. If he wants to jump in a relate his experiences, that's totally his call.

 

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I encourage anyone who has had experiences with me, my Yotube channel, etc. over the years, to please post here. If it's negative, I would love to hear about it, and I will reply as I see fit.

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22 hours ago, The Area 51 Rider said:

I encourage anyone who has had experiences with me, my Yotube channel, etc. over the years, to please post here. If it's negative, I would love to hear about it, and I will reply as I see fit.

That goes for you as well Christian, even if it's under a fake ass account. You know that you can't hide forever, so come on, man up and defend yourself.

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51 minutes ago, SonicandSheeps said:

That goes for you as well Christian, even if it's under a fake ass account. You know that you can't hide forever, so come on, man up and defend yourself.

I won't respond to a "fake ass account". Nor will I respond to any allegations without proof.

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5 minutes ago, The Area 51 Rider said:

I won't respond to a "fake ass account". Nor will I respond to any allegations without proof.

AGREED! Its waste of time going after fake ass bi@tchs

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Posted (edited)

May 10, 2020
RANDOM FALSE ALLEGATIONS

This is a long post, and consists of many screenshots. I have tried to size them as small as I can, yet still have them legible. I will comment where necessary. This is a rabbit-hole, so be warned.

What follows is just a small number of his allegations, etc. against me. There are many more, plus many I wasn't able to screenshot before he deleted them. There are also many sock-puppet comments that I haven't included below. As it is difficult to pin down who exactly is behind a sock-puppet, I cannot claim he is behind those comments. There are a few I am 100% sure he created, including one called "B The traveler" that I have definitive proof is him. I am not going to reveal the proof, as it may be relevant in a possible future lawsuit.

Part of the reason for posting these screenshots, is it proves how much he was involved in this, for years. And the depths he would go to, to try and get support from his cult/fans. MANY times I was, and still am, accused of "bullying him". Read what follows, and tell me who was bullying who.

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I did not attack his business, he hasn't had a legitimate business since about 2011. I did not "call his son's coach", how would I even know who that is? I don't treat my subscribers "mean" - however if idiots just parrot his false allegations, I might get into it with them, and ban them. TFB. I didn't "scream" at him. I didn't "trash a campsite". I'm not sick, and right now I weigh 220 lbs. - a bit of that is middle-age gut. I have high blood pressure, but other than that I am pretty healthy. The "people of Nevada" have no clue who I am, and have no clue who he is either. He has never, to anyone's knowledge, come through on his promise of free rooms, show tickets, etc.

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No screenshot of this one, but:
“I have comments saying there going to find my son, and kill him. One came where he said I know where he plays baseball you need to look for a red dot on him. I would take a comment about a cat anyday over that. I can't talk about that any further.”
"Please stop calling my son's school, and stop trying to say my daughter, and I have a bad relationship."


Oh PLEASE do talk about that further. Please give us more details, those are some pretty heavy accusations. I have never called your son's school. I have never said anything about whatever relationship you have with your daughter. However, your daughters affidavit in your divorce documents speaks volumes.

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This blog proves you haven't "ignored him". I have done nothing to your family, or your business. Please provide proof of any of this.

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The "church" he refers to is the Scientology building on Hollywood Blvd. I did say "someone should blow that place up". If that's a "Hate crime or "terrorist threat", and the "church" is pursing it fully, no one has ever contacted me. Again, to anyone's knowledge, he has never come through on his promise of free rooms, show tickets, etc.

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He is referring to his "AREA 51 IS OVER YOU GUYS" video. He removed it, because he was getting called out on his false accusations in it.

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I'm the "old fellow up north". I have no fake accounts, but I do have a backup account on Youtube. Not sure when or how I was "attacking" either him or UFO Seekers. No idea what community post he is talking about. "I do nothing to this guy" - refer to the screenshots in this post. Since he seems to read every word I post, and scrutinize every video, I was putting little images of his head watching me, on my channel. Sorry, but it humored me.
I'm evil? Riiiiight.

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Note the nice comments from his "fans", after he encourages physical harm against me. I get what I get from a lot of research, and an entire month of every year exploring down there. His "boots are on the ground" going to every spot I have already covered, years ago. He isn't out there "every week". I own nothing down there, but I have covered the Area 51 topic far better than he ever could, and for much longer. I have a rich life outside Youtube and Area 51, but that is one of my passions. I have never commented as someone else on his videos, never mind "Jeff Williams".

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He refers to a real person named David, who lives in Australia, and is a friend of mine. I am a pacifist, plus I doubt he would ever show up anywhere to "meet him on Groom Lake Road" without him being armed, or having backup. More lies about "MESSING WITH MY SON". "KEEP PLAYING YOUR VICTIM CARD" - see what I did there?

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Here he claims I made bad reviews against his "business". He has had no legal business since 2011.
Again, no proof of any kind that I was behind this. He has no access to any IP addresses, if so THEN POST THEM.
This review though - what kind of moron leaves a 5 star review of his own business? The kind of guy that would post bad reviews, then use them to play the victim.
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Here's where he encourages his subscribers to call Homeland Security on me, because I "threatened to blow up a church", and various other lies. See above about the "church".
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This false accusation he has made many times, that I posted photo-shopped screenshots of him and his son on gay sex sites. I have to admit, I almost died laughing over this one, but I did no such thing. He offers no proof of this of course.

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Not even sure how to respond to this one. Other than deny it all I guess.

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"man crush"? Hardly. Unlike what I have heard about him, I don't have a gay bone in my body. The friend in Colorado he refers to is my good friend, Desert Jeff. Jeff is a very smart guy, and he sure didn't need me to point out how crazy this guy is. See Jeff's post in this thread. Again with the livelihood - see my comments above about that.

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This refers to one of his videos where he thought it was ok to use part of my video in his. I reported it. Then he and KS222/Kristin Sole discovered the "fair use" loophole on Youtube. More about that in a future blog post.

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Despite having a "big time lawyer" and "not leaving it alone this time", I have never been contacted by any lawyer. I think it's safe to say this lawyer doesn't exist. If he/she does, please have them contact me. All he has to do is give them the link where he doxxed me, for my contact info.

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Yes, I did see an Asian woman on Hollywood Blvd, and yes I commented in a video that she looked like Yoko Ono. That's because she looked like Yoko Ono. For anyone who doesn't know who/what KS222/Kristin Sole is, I will be covering that in a future blog post.

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Have I called women the B word (bitch?). I must admit, I have. Do I call every woman the B word? I do not.

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If making MANY false allegations is "fighting back", then indeed he has. I have never spray painted anything in the US. I might have called a woman driver the B word, and I did see some hookers. See above comments about the church/building, and KS222. If he still wants to fight me, and can prove he will come alone and unarmed, sure. I would probably lose, I have no clue how to fight, but guess what? He would still be a scumbag POS.

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PLEASE mention the things you haven't mentioned yet. And you are calling me racist and sexist, Jackie? Ask his "family" about that. Yes, truth will always win.

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I didn't "freak out" about being caught overlaying a sonic boom over a sonic boom on my video that didn't record properly. What other channels have I "gone after"? The "hate channel" he refers to is "ADVENTURES with Dumbass" which isn't lies, but exposes HIS lies. It isn't my channel, but I did have a hand in the production. Those who own it want to reinstate it - I have asked them to hold off... for now.

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The KS222 channel is gone for the moment, I have no doubt it will reappear at some point. Kristin Sole considers what I am doing here as "bullying". I call it "revealing" and/or "exposing". Here's a link to it, most of the videos are now private:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEitYIbv2sCYkx-fZRBqc7w

The "terrible channel" is the "ADVENTURES with Dumbass" channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJDqGBJANew-Anr5iLoNzcA

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He isn't clear on this, but I am sure it is me he is falsely accusing me of "swatting him" or "calling and making up lies". To be clear - he was parked at a remote entrance to Area 51, his only intention was to harass the camo dudes by forcing them to watch his stupid ass all night. The camo dudes would have eventually called the sheriff, in the middle of the night, to check on his stupid ass to see why he was out there i.e. "wellness check". That is their job, they don't need someone "swatting him" for that. I have heard he was pointing a high powered laser at the camo dudes as well.

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More than one of us should be locked up in a mental hospital. Those who beat their wife and kids should top that list, IMO. More encouragement of his "fans" to call Homeland Security with false allegations. If that ever happened, DHS have never contacted me.

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More of the same - he claims I made bad reviews on his business, I vandalized government property (put a sticker on a sign), I should blow up a church. All false.

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Who the hell is Tracey, and how did I scare her? WTF?

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Again with the claims I screen-shotted his and his sons faces, and put them on dirty sex sites. Delusions with no proof. No idea about the subs thing. The reviews thing again. Finally we come to the tape.

That is the stop sign on Groom Lake Road. I had one of my 4" stickers in the middle of the O, it lasted for 2 years before Christian decided to remove it, and he put this tape on the sign. Oh yes, I wrote "F*** OFF DIPSHIT CHRISTIAN" on that tape, but what you can't see is what is under it, which he wrote - FOSTER IS A FAG, and more.
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He has a series of pictures on Facebook of himself at spots where he removed my stickers. Here he poses after putting that tape on this sign and writing on it. Isn't that called graffiti?

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"Kind to him" - riiiight Christian. I will be documenting the 4+ times I reached out with an olive branch to him, to end this nonsense. It was either laughed at or ignored. 

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Here's an example of him doxxing me, just one of many times. "Silly"? I would be more inclined to call him a psycho idiot. Apparently I did "all the graffiti out there". Grand(sic) and binauculars(sic) are spelled wrong btw, moron. I hope his two "fans" who commented are rethinking things. One of them could be.... nvm.
Who is he thanking for their service? 1) the camo dudes are hired contractors, and 2) I have it on good authority they don't like him.

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Ah yes, the infamous "shocking stumps incident".
1) I was in Canada when this occurred - he infers that I was responsible
2) none of the video(s) he refers to has ever appeared
Please release the videos. PLEASE.

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B The traveler - I can prove these posts were made by him, as I noted in the intro.
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So many threats against me, and false accusations. This pretty much speaks for itself. I believe the Susan and Robert he refers to are employees of Youtube.


NEXT: SO WHO IS KS222?

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Cleaning up syntax and misspelling.
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3 hours ago, The Area 51 Rider said:

May 10, 2020
RANDOM FALSE ALLEGATIONS

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He refers to a real person named David, who lives in Australia, and is a friend of mine. I am a pacifist, plus I doubt he would ever show up anywhere to "meet him on Groom Lake Road" without him being armed, or having backup. More lies about "MESSING WITH MY SON". "KEEP PLAYING YOUR VICTIM CARD" - see what I did there?

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Yes David Fingermuncher is me posting. The 'Fingermuncher' has nothing to do with AWC's actual fingers either !

I doubt he would want to meet me at Groom Lake Rd as it wouldn't end well for him.

Sounds like with the momentum this thread is generating and some other work being done in the background by very smart legal people, its not going to end well for old mate Christian 😉 

Just hold that thought !

 

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1 hour ago, Dave James said:

Yes David Fingermuncher is me posting. The 'Fingermuncher' has nothing to do with AWC's actual fingers either !

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the Adventures with Christian & area51 rider stuff. by now i just ignore it, just want to watch you-tube videos. i wish christian grows up, & stop it. or is it not funny to say, we both got hurt. & our lines was cut.  i don't got in that part, that much now days. but maybe one day, i get back down there.

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It's a shame, we just want to make YouTube videos, unfortunately Christian can't seem to let other people make Area 51 videos without harassing them. He seems to think he is the only one allowed to make Area 51 videos. 

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9 hours ago, EWU Bob said:

It's a shame, we just want to make YouTube videos, unfortunately Christian can't seem to let other people make Area 51 videos without harassing them. He seems to think he is the only one allowed to make Area 51 videos. 

I am literally going to spew my coffee from laughing so hard the day that you, or rider, post a picture of your new camper and vacant lot in goldfield. 

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1 hour ago, Janet Airlines said:

I am literally going to spew my coffee from laughing so hard the day that you, or rider, post a picture of your new camper and vacant lot in goldfield. 

I'm going to be making a trip out that way later this year after all this virus madness calms down...may have to make a side trip and install a large sign on a certain vacant lot. "Abra - Cadabra's  All Male Bunny Ranch coming soon"  🤠

 

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Hey why are there two KS channels?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEitYIbv2sCYkx-fZRBqc7w

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-92NhGNvtrrgNdg5fQzsSg

I know the first one is legit because I was subbed. Who cloned the channel and why? It was made a week ago. Weird timing!

Color me suspicious, but Rider, do you know anything about this? You've backed up AWC's videos to a second channel for our viewing so I'm curious if this is yours as well.

This reminds me of The Recruit! Great movie.

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